Friday 14 February 2014

Conference at Montmartre, 18th Nov 1169

King Henry II:

"I might well kiss archbishop Thomas," saith he, "but
because, once upon a time I swore in my wrath, when
his ways misliked me, never more in my life to give
him a kiss. I see it not necessary to break my oath
sworn thereon."

From Thómas Saga Erkibyskups: p. 449.

Herbert of Bosham to Becket as they were leaving the conference:
"Today the peace of our Church was discussed in the Chapel of the Martyrdom, and I believe it is only through your martyrdom that the Church will gain peace."

Becket turning around to face Herbert:
"How I wish that it were liberated even with my blood!"

From Michael Staunton (2001). The Lives of Thomas Becket. Manchester University Press. p. 172.

After months of preparation and through the perseverance of two papal legates a latere, Vivian and Gratian, a means was eventually devised for obtaining a reconciliation between archbishop Thomas Becket and king Henry, without the customs and constitutions having to be mentioned.  On 18th November 1169, at Montmartre, with the king of France present with whom Henry was arranging a peace deal, Henry received a petition from Becket, requesting his reinstatement in the grace and favour of the king, his return to Canterbury in safety and the return of all the property belonging to him and others and the church that had been sequestered. Henry at first refusing reluctantly gave verbal assent to this, saying that he had not compelled Becket into exile. However, he declined to give the customary kiss of peace between Becket and himself which normally must take place in order to seal an agreement. The conference broke up without a deal having been reached.

 
Account of the Mission of Vivian and Gratian

Inter Angliae regem et archiepiscopum paci reformandae multi multam multotiens operam impenderunt. Ad ultimam missos suisse duos a latere summi pontific superioribus litteris accepistis. Et qui nec meritis praecedentibus, nec offensis intra viscera materna conclusos, Jacob dilexit, et Esau reprobavit, ipse Deus sic instituit animos Viviani et Gratiani, ut a primordio legationis iniunctae statim alter regem, statim alter archiepiscopum modis omnibus fovere proponeret, et quorum erat potestas aequalis eosdem varius disjugebat affectus nec finis potuit invenisse concordes qui ab inicio vora conceperat tam diversa. Sec sicut penes regem Gratianus gratiam non invenit, sic nec penes archiepiscopum aliqua vivit in memoria Vivianus. Cum igitur tractaturi pace, se conspectui regio praesentassent apud Bajocas in Normannia, postque tractatus immensos pax esse in januis credetur ab omnibus, litteras illis direxit Willelmus Senoniensis archiepiscopus, in quibus continebatur, ne sine conscientia ipsius sicut in mandatis a domino papa susceprerant, in reconciliatione facienda procederent. Sic infectio negotio duo legati summi pontificis a regis curia recesserunt.
Conference at Montmatre, Nov 18 [1169]

In Octavis Sancti Martini habitum est colloquium inter regem Francorum et regem Angliae proxime Parisius, ubi praesens fuit archiepiscopus Cantuarensis, sed se regis Anglorum minime conspectui praesentavit. Cumque diu tractatum esset de pace facienda inter regem et archiepiscopum, quoniam ad hoc qui convenerant videbantur inniti, ne praetextu regi dignitatis libertas Ecclesiae deperiret, novo genere obligationis sic novam confoederationem involvere contendebant, ut simul et debita Deo reverentia impenderetur in omnibus. et jus regium nichilominus conservaretur illaesum; cum constet pro certo, quod in observatione regiae dignitatis libertas aut diginitas ecclesiastica non gravetur. Siquidem dignitas ecclesiastica regiam provehit potius quam adimit dignitatem, et regalis dignitas ecclesiasticam potius conservare quam tollere consuevit libertatem; etenim quasi quibusdam sibi invicem complexibus dignitas ecclesiastica et regalis concurrunti, cum nec reges salutem sine ecclesia, nec ecclesia pacem sine protectione regia consequatur consilio itaque consilio itaque regis francorum episcoporum et procerum archiepiscopus petitionem suam redactam in scedula regi Anglorum porrexit continentem haec verba:

Proposals of the archbishop to the king

» Hoc petimus a domino nostro Rege, juxta mandatum et con-
» silium domini papae, quatinus pro amore Dei et domini pарaе, et honore sanctae
» ecclesiae, et salute sua et haeredum suorum, recipiat nos in gratiam suam,
» et concedat nobis et omnibus qui nobiscum et pro nobis exierunt de regno
» suo , pacem suam et plenam securitatem de se et suis, sine malo ingenio; et
» reddat nobis ecclesiam Cantuariensem in ea plenitudine et libértate, in qua
» earn melius habuimus, postquam facti sumus Archiepiscopus; et possessiones
» omnes quas habuimus ad tenendum et habendum ita libere et quiete, et
» honorifice, sicut ecclesia et nos eas liberius et honorificentius tenuimus et
» habuimus postquam promoti sumus in Archiepiscopum; et similiter nostris; et
» omnes ecclesias et praebendas ad archiepiscopum pertinentes, quae vacave-
» runt postquam exivimus de terra, ut faciamus de eis sicut de nostris prout
» nobis placuerit, similiter habere permittat. »

A.D.1169 Henry offers to satisfy the archbishop. Failure of the negotiations

Duobus articulis plenum non praebuit assensum rex Angliae. Nec enim nomine restitutionis, cum archiepiscopum non expulerit, juxta dignitatem regni quicquam debebat exolvere, nec bonorum .vacantium possessiones quas jam dederat certis personis in irritum devocare. Sed ut legibus alligatum se principem profiteretur in medium, coram rege Francorum paratus erat archiepiscopo per omnia satisfacere, vel si contendere decrevisset, judicium in palatio Parisiensi subire proceribus Galliae residentibus, aut Gallicana ecclesia partes suas interponente, Jeu scplaribus diveriarum provinciarum arqua lance negotium examinantibus. Et ita rex Angliae, qui prius odium in se plurimorum conflaverat, in hoc verbo plurium favorem adeptus est. Itaque rex Anglorum et archiepiscopus in qualiquali concordia convenissent, nisi quia rex archiepiscopo dare signum pacis in osculo penitus abnegasset, et abjurasset, omnem aliam securitatem arbitratu boni viri paratus offerre, paratus praestare.

From
Roger (of Wendover); Matthew Paris (1849). Roger of Wendover's Flowers of History: Comprising the History of England from the Descent of the Saxons to A.D. 1235; Formerly Ascribed to Matthew Paris. H. G. Bohn. pp. 564–8.





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